Thursday, February 02, 2012

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You Are One Sided


by Reb Gutman Locks @ Mystical Paths

Dudley wrote:

    Hi Gutman, I find it interesting that Abraham’s covenant with God that ‘his seed would outnumber the grains of sand in the ocean, stars in the heavens, etc. may actually apply to the lineage of Ishmael, not the lineage of Isaac (Jacob/Israel). There are so many Muslims and a lot fewer Jews.  I know you don’t like that interpretation but it is the way it is.  

      It sounds like your suggestion that all the Muslims move out of Israel is your way of having peace between Arabs and Jews.  That seems pretty one sided.
     Although, “in Isaac shall seed be called to thee.” He also said that Ishmael would make a nation “because he is thy seed” too. (Genesis 21:12)

Blessings, Dudley

Gutman’s Answer:

Shalom Dudley,

     Sometimes in our effort to make peace we want to follow our hearts, but the Torah warns us against this, and tells us that our heads have to rule over our hearts.

     There are at least 22 huge Arab countries surrounding this tiny land of Israel. And today, the majority of local Arabs want to leave this land to go where they feel that they can make a better life for themselves.

       In that line that you cited, when talking about inheriting this land, G-d said to Avraham, “through Yitzchak will offspring be considered yours.”[i] It does not say this about Ishmael.

      There are a number of places in the Bible where this land was promised specifically to the Jewish nation, and not to Ishmael. For instance, G-d said to Yaacov, “… the ground on which you are lying I will give to you and your descendants”[ii]

     Those quotes from the Koran that I sent out show that even Islam recognizes this land to be the land G-d promised to the Jewish people.

     You are right, there are many more Muslims in the world than are there Jews, but the fact is that the vast majority of them are not Ishmael’s seed. They come from many different nations. Islam is a religion, a belief, not a people. Ishmael is recognized by Muslims as the ancestor of only several Arab tribes. There are very few people in the world who claim to be his actual seed.

      To the opposite of this, except for a handful of orthodox converts, all Jews in the world are Avraham and Sarah’s physical seed. That is what makes us Jews, not our beliefs.

     This land was not only promised to the Jewish people, its history shows that we have lived here from the time of Joshua, 1436 BCE. We filled this land until the First Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 586 BCE and we were expelled. We returned after some 50 years of exile, but were expelled again in 70 C.E. when the Second Temple was destroyed.

     And today… just as the prophets prophesied, we are coming home again. But this time it will be for good. Stay tuned. It is happening right now, and you and your children will see it.

Be well


P.S. Oh, and what do the Arab politicians say?

    “I will never allow a single Israeli live among us on Palestinian land.” (Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas, Egyptian newspaper July 28, 2010)

[i] Genesis 21:12

[ii] Genesis 10:13

1 comment:

  1. I did miluim along the Jordan border at the Musa Alami checkpoint where Arabs from Judea and Samaria must pass through to leave the country. For a few years now, they cannot leave by air, only through this eastern gate of Jericho, towards the Allenby bridge on to the rest of the world.

    The buses would leave full and return during the day only, empty or half-empty from the Jordanian side. I was only there for a couple of weeks, so I asked the younger permanent soldier who verified their papers if this was normal, and he confirmed, more leave than come back. Made me happy. Living in Eretz Yisrael is a privilege and obviously, these people do not deserve it.


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