by Reb Akiva @ Mystical Paths
Wikipedia - Supersessionism, also called replacement theology or fulfillment theology, is a Christian theological view on the current status of the Catholic church in relation to the Jewish people and Judaism. It holds that the Christian Church has replaced the Israelites as God's chosen people and that the New Covenant has replaced or superseded the Mosaic covenant. From a supersessionist's "point of view, just by continuing to exist, the Jews dissent".
Supersessionism formed a core tenet of the Church for the majority of its existence, and remains a common assumption among Christians.
This view was invalided by Vaticin II in 1965 as the formal Catholic church theology, though recent church theology councils continue to struggle with how the Jewish path and Torah can be religiously valid in their world. Their problem, not ours.
Mystical Paths has recently been getting a series of anonymous comments on old posts by Reb Gutman about Muslim positions on Jews and Jerusalem, as taken from the Quran (comments I am not approving.) What came up as particularly interesting to me was the clear position of Super Super Sessionism – that Islam replaced Christianity which replaced Judaism, and therefore all Jewish biblical (Torah) figures and prophets are actually Muslim prophets, and all Christian new testament figures are actually Muslim prophets. Here it is in the Anonymous commentors own words…
This site promotes hate to Islam and Muslims. You don't say anything right about my religion (Islam).
And I'm learning about Judaism, it seems you obsessively took your ethnicity as a religion. It seems your purpose in life is the preservation of your ethnicity, which is a so vain and false and man-made purpose.
The Qur'an speaks about peace, self-defense, religious freedom... You accuse Islam of violent, etc. But you don't mention that it is in the context of self-defense. And you just repeat what Christians/Media/Atheists say, as if Christians and Jews never read the Torah before, which is full of cruelty, war, violence, honor killing, etc. And you speak as if Islam/The Qur'an was the one with all that stuff. (I speak about Scriptures, not current affairs).
And then you ask that guy to read the Qur'an according to a racist mind. While the Qur'an says that all prophets were Muslims (Muslim is an Arabic word, the translation to English is “one who submits to the will of G-d”.) According to this definition, all Prophets were Muslims. And sects/divisions are forbidden in Islam.
Can you imagine if Moses, as a Muslim, was to tell non-jewish Muslims “don't pray next to me, don't be my neighbor, what's your ancestry... ?
I have read in this site how you ask people about their mother's ancestry, you stop people from places because you think they don't belong there, you invent about the purpose of non-jews in this life, as if it was other than yours.
Palestineans were expelled from their homes and you wonder: why are they angry? Why do they fight back?..., you allowed users' comments insulting Christians and Muslims (ex. a Jew called pedophile to all Christians and you didn't delete that comment), etc.
Dear Anonymous commentor:
“The Qur'an speaks about peace, self-defense, religious freedom... You accuse Islam of violent, etc. But you don't mention that it is in the context of self-defense.”
I’m not going to debate your interpretation of the Quran with you. And I have met some peaceful nice free muslims. BUT, the vast majority of terrorism in the world is perpetuated by people who declare themselves muslim and their actions jihad. Thousands of innocents mass murdered every year in the name of your religion, book and god. And it’s worth noting that the majority of those killed are other muslims by those murdering muslims!
The best I can understand your concept of self-defense is these muslims saying “the world might affect us…so we must kill it!”
As far as religious freedom, surely you jest. Muslim majority nations are ranked as the most religiously oppresive in the world! Out of the top 20 most religiously oppressive countries, Muslim countries are 17 of the 20.
“sects/divisions are forbidden in Islam”
Please explain Shia versus Sunni, and why these two groups frequently kill each other.
“you ask people about their mother's ancestry, you stop people from places because you think they don't belong there”
And you ask people about their father’s faith, and consider people muslim or not by that. What’s your point? Each religion and group has it’s standards for entry. Judaism’s is that the mother is Jewish or a person converts.
“Palestineans were expelled from their homes and you wonder: why are they angry? Why do they fight back?...”
Or they weren’t expelled, but you and they have been fed lies. And they weren’t absorbed as refugees, AS EVERY OTHER REFUGEES WERE, including Jewish ones expelled from Arab / muslim countries, to keep them angry and a threat.
Regardless, you expect us to sit and die and not fight those who try to kill us? Guess again. You should be amazed we are able to do that without mass murder and mass slaughter of innocents… like what is happening in Syria (muslim country), Iraq (muslim country), etc.
Innocent Syrians (muslims) are being slaughtered in the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS, and those who can are fleeing for their lives – in the MILLIONS. How many Palestinians are fleeing from Israel, the Palestinian territories or Gaza? None? Strange that. Says something doesn’t it?