Thursday, January 10, 2013

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Instability in the U.S.???

What is going on in the U.S. of A???

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"The president is going to act," said U.S. Vice President Joe Biden, giving some comments to the press before a meeting with victims of gun violence. "There are executives orders, there's executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action that we believe is required."

“Following controversy over its purchase of around 1.2 billion bullets in the last six months alone, the Department of Homeland Security has put out a new solicitation for over 200 million more rounds of ammunition, some of which are designated to be used by snipers.  A series of new solicitations… show that the DHS is looking to purchase 200 million rounds of .223 rifle ammunition over the next four years, as well as 176,000 rounds of .308 caliber 168 grain hollow point boat tail rounds in addition to 25,000 rounds of .308 caliber bullets.

“It is the type of ammunition and not necessarily the quantity that is troubling.”  …acquisition of .308 rounds is of concern because they are set to be used by well-trained snipers.  …the math adds up to 135,384 potential kills for the snipers to make, using the 176,000 rounds of ammunition, basing the figures on the fact that United States Army …snipers in the Vietnam War expended 1.3 rounds of ammunition for each …kill.

The DHS’ decision back in March to purchase of 450 million rounds of .40-caliber hollow point bullets that are designed to expand upon entry and cause maximum organ damage prompted questions as to why the federal agency required such powerful bullets and in such large quantities… This was followed up by a more recent order for a further 750 million rounds of assorted ammunition, including bullets that can penetrate walls.

The … media responded to the controversy by focusing on a purchase of 174,000 bullets by the Social Security Administration (???) while completely ignoring the fact that the DHS had purchased well over a billion rounds.

Having recently acquired riot gear, the DHS also purchased a number of bullet-proof checkpoint booths that include ‘stop and go’ lights.

13 comments:

Moriah said...

These are not for target practice. You don't use hollow points for target practice.

Neshama said...

I just commented on Dov's blog about that craziness. It's weird, like someone spiked the drinking water there. They are falling apart, one by one.

My take is that the Shechina has left the Jews in Chu"l and everything is unraveling.

Dov Bar-Leib said...

Those who have not seriously started their Aliyah process by Pesach could very well get stuck in an unraveling situation later on. The way I look at it, 9/11/01 was a ten year warning to wrap up affairs and leave at one's leisure or when it was the most opportune time to leave. Then New York and Illinois became homosexual marriage and Civil Union states along with a whole host of other states in 2011. Then came Hurricane Irene. It was a shot across the bow, but it was an additional one year warning to make Aliyah within the year. So the ten year warning from 9/11/01 was extended another year. Then came Sandy and then Sandy Hook. These are more than subtle shoves out the door for those who can see the nudge coming from G-d. All the flurry to issue executive orders to confiscate the arms of Americans is coming on the heels of Sandy Hook. If this reasoning is all true, serious societal collapse in the US will take place sometime in 5773. It will then become obvious to many American Jews that they should have paid attention to all the previous warnings. I don't think American Jews have another year to leave with their possessions or to make Aliyah in a leisurely way. Time is of he essence.

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mochinrechavim said...

Dov. You are not prophet. You are a fairly learned individual who has an internet soap box. Your entire life is lived by Dooms Day predictions. You limit G-d and you limit Moshiach.

Then you fuel people like Neshamah who truly believe that even have a clue what the Shechinah is, let alone how it reacts in this world, moves around, and leaves Jews C"V.

The Shechinah doesnt leave a single Jew because the Shechinah is ALSO in Galus.

Get a clue. You Jews living in Eretz Yisroel are also in the darkness. The darkness is thick as we will learn in Parsha Bo next week.

Except this time, NO JEW IS LEFT BEHIND.

So save your Aliyah propaganda for the fools that read your blog.

MPaths tends to be a little more mainstream and level headed outside of the occasional article such as this.

Dov Bar-Leib said...

Correct, I am not a prophet. And correct, if one survives b'itah or how one survives b'itah, no one is left behind. You just have to ask yourself where you want to be as Western Civilization disintegrates. There is a time gap between that happening and Ben David's coming.

As for the Shechinah leaving a place, before that place disintegrates, ask Rav Pinchus Winston. Read what he says about Lavan's face changing before Ya'akov realized that he better leave that place.

There is no doomsday with Mashiach coming b'itah. We could have had it the kinder and gentler G0g W. Bush way, but not enough observant Ashkenazic Jews wanted to leave their comfortable life in Chu"l. So we got the Ashkenazic gedolim who were influenced by the flock to perpetuate the galut another Shmittah cycle to the cycle of the 11th horn dude. Gog went back to his ranch in Texas. So now there will be a consequence for not jumping on board in the previous Shmittah cycle when Mashiach's coming would have been with more Rachmanut for Jews in Chu"l. Somehow a "Biblical" opportunity went to waste. George W. was Gog, and he is not dead in the Valley of HamonGog. So this time G-d wants us to leave Chu"l before it becomes difficult to leave. The doomsday is only for those who insist on perpetuating the Galut by staying outside Eretz Yisrael without even desiring to be here. Obama is a truly evil man. You would rather live under his authority than here in Israel? Why is that? What is it that you desire there over living here? This obviously does not apply to those who have reasonable extenuating circumstances that are holding them back. One has to honestly ask himself if he is one of them.

Anonymous said...

http://mysticalpaths.blogspot.com/2008/02/what.html

remember the Mystical Paths post of February 2008, with, inter alia, the following text?
your current post is what the allusion then was about:


We need to ask ourselves this. Those of you in the military and law
enforcement need to ask yourselves if you (worst case scenario),
will have the integrity and conscientiousness to do what is
ultimately right, or violate peoples personal freedom like we saw
in Louisiana.

R. Akiva: What in the world??? This came out in the US Northeast on
an ordinary mailing list.

BTW, Good for Drudge!
all the best, cycjec

Anonymous said...


Bob Owens, at his site on a recent
visit to his local gun shop:

Every weapon of military utility designed within the past 100+ years was gone. This isn’t a society stocking up on certain guns because they fear they may be banned. This is a society preparing for war.


one of several widely circulated recent posts by Bob Owens:

What you'll see in the rebellion � Bob Owens
http://www.bob-owens.com/2012/12/what-youll-see-in-the-rebellion/


If we're lucky, the United States of America, or whatever amalgam
results, will again try to rebuild. If we're very lucky, the victors
will reinstate the Constitution as the law of the land. Just as likely
though, we'll face fractious civil wars fought over issues we've not
begun to fathom, and a much diminished state or states will result,
perhaps guided by foreign interests.

It will not be pretty. There will be no "winners," and perhaps hundreds
of thousands to millions of dead.








corroboration for your OP:

"Subotai Bahadur" is a retired 30 years peace officer and
local, for want of a better term, conservative activist.


Belmont Club � President for Life
http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2013/01/07/president-for-life/
[The OP is about Hugo Chavez; commenters see another parallel]

some of Subotai Bahadur's comment 28:

quoting another: Dang, I saw the headline, I thought it was about Herr Obama.

SB: It may yet so refer. The regime obeys no law or the Constitution.

Democrats have introduced a bill to repeal the 22nd Amendment. And
numerous bills to gut the Second Amendment. And have been
stockpiling more ammunition for normally unarmed government
agencies than literally were used by the US military during the
Iraq war. Consider the existence of purported Social Security
Agency and National Weather Service SWAT teams buying mass amounts
of paramilitary weapons, equipment, and ammunition. And I know from
personal contact that the hires in these new "security agencies"
are taught that they are above the law and Constitution, and brag
about it.



Anonymous said...

for New Yorker (the State and City)

Did The Flag Just Go Up? - MarketTicker Forums
http://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3095129

Posted 2012-12-21 23:46
by Karl Denninger

Did The Flag Just Go Up?

Oh oh....

In the interview, Mr. Cuomo did not offer specifics about the
measures he might propose, but, while discussing assault weapons, he
said: "Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state
could be an option. Permitting could be an option -- keep your gun
but permit it."

Oh really Andrew?

You might get away with that in some parts of the state, but in
others...... [Andrew Cuomo is Governor of New York State]

This ought to be interesting to watch -- from a distance.


some of one comment:
Vitchilo

A civil war is coming if they pull this crap...
And even if they do not get to ban guns and take them THIS TIME doesn't
mean anything. ,,, ,,,

Anonymous said...


other voices:

Sipsey Street Irregulars: Oops. One more I simply had to link to
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2012/12/oops-one-more-i-simply-had-to-link-to.html

Saturday, December 22, 2012
Oops. One more I simply had to link to.

A visit to a gun store

Writing this piece has left me with a very tight knot in my stomach
that I have not had in decades. It's the feeling we're headed into a
major civil war and there isn't a damned thing anyone can do about
it.

Posted by Dutchman6 at 9:08 AM

2 of 13 comments:

Mike I just got back from shoping at Wal-mart- AMMO GONE- They
had ONE box 'O 10MM ONE box 9MM some .22 and .410 thats it. My
local large G&A has NO ammo and NO SA firearms. One local farmer
said; "If that Ass HOLE in the white house make a move this
countrys gonna blow up" about 30 men said AMEN!! Mike things are
turning realy ugly up hear in Ky. People hear aren't hideing
guns, they are asking frends and family if they need one,and
then giveing them wepons and ammo. Guys who shoot together are
asking if anybody has field gear& BDUs. All it'll take now is
one stupid to set this shit off.
December 22, 2012 10:39 AM

Anonymous said...
I called my state rep to ask where he stands on the gun control
issue.
The person on the phone said he's 100% pro-gun, so I asked if
other people are calling on the issue of gun control.
I was told people where both calling and coming to the office
and that some were so angry they were near tears.
Locally people are using words like Revolution, civil war and
up-rising like you would talk about the weather.
I too did an online search and found that parts are being sold
out as well. It looks like people that cant buy guns are buying
parts to assemble one later.
*I also heard a retired State Trooper on a radio show say he is
hearing that Obama is going to make his move on gun owners 30-60
days after the inauguration.
Mike have you heard anything like this?
December 22, 2012 1:29 PM



Anonymous said...

some recent historical background, from Mr. Vanderboegh (before he had his own blog)

Now I have spent a lot of time since the early days of the Clinton
Administration considering the Founders' concepts of the deterrence of
tyranny by the armed citizenry from the perspectives of philosophy,
history, strategy and tactics. The catalyst for all this reflection was,
of course, the twin menaces of the increasing Clintonista proscriptions
of firearms rights (Brady and the Assault Weapons Ban) and the massacre
of the Branch Davidians at Waco. The subsequent failure of the Republican
congress and the courts to do anything substantive about either threat--
legislative tyranny or rogue bureaucracy-- led many of us to conclude
that we had now entered a time when we could only count on ourselves to
maintain our liberties.

The Law of Unintended Consequences decreed that there would be two
unexpected results of this Clintonista constitutional misbehavior. The
first was the importation and sale within a few months of several
millions of semi-auto rifles (principally SKS and AK-variants) into the
U.S. This was in anticipation of, and defiance of, the so-called "Assault
Weapons Ban." Indeed, this was more rifles of these types than had been
sold in the previous TWENTY YEARS. And it was in a political climate
where it was fully expected that the next law would call for the
confiscation of such weapons. Why, then, did this massive arming take
place? Were we buying these rifles merely to turn them over later? When
the Clintonistas realized that we were not buying these rifles to turn
them in, but to turn ON THEM if they became even more threatening to our
liberties, it gave them considerable pause. I am told the analysts in the
bowels of the J. Edgar Hoover building were particularly impressed.

from: The War on Guns Name: David Codrea

Friday, May 04, 2007

Guest Editorial: "Resistance is Futile": Waco Rules vs. Romanian Rules
by Mike Vanderboegh
http://waronguns.blogspot.com/2007/05/guest-editorial-resistance-is-futile.html


Subject: Absolved: The Quarry by Mike Vanderboegh
http://westernrifleshooters.blogspot.com/2008/10/vanderboegh-quarry.html

FRIDAY, OCTOBER 3, 2008 Vanderboegh: The Quarry
A Chapter of 'Absolved' by Mike Vanderboegh
Forrest "Fob" Hood James, Jr.
Absolved is a novel in progress, intended to warn of current trends
in order to prevents events of the sort it describes.

From the comments:

Anonymous Vanderboegh said...

tjbbpgob sez: "Mike, just read your latest chapter online. I would
like to know where are we going to get a gov. like that in Al."

Srangely enough, we already had one similar to that and his name was
Fob James. The words I put in the fictional Ray Marsh's mouth were
spoken in large measure by Fob James to the FBI and US attorney's right
after he took over as Governor. Then he was refering to Waco and told
them, according to someone I implicitly trust who was in the room.
"There ain't goin' to be no Wacos in my state and if you try I'll have
the state police in between you and your intended victims. And if I
can't get them between you, I'll have them on your backs." True story.
The feds, of course, were outraged.

You may remember that Fob took his oath beneath a banner upon
which was printed the Tenth Amendment.

Unfortunately, Fob James turned out to be a man who unaccountably
excelled at embracing his enemies and urinating upon his friends.

Anonymous said...

Plain Meaning Of The 2nd Amendment Judge Alex Kozinski,
a federal appellate judge in the Ninth Circuit, in the case of Silveira v. Lockyer:
Judge Alex Kozinski, Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, 2003, dissenting:



KOZINSKI, Circuit Judge, dissenting from denial of rehearing en banc: All too many of the other great tragedies of history -- Stalin's atrocities, the killing fields of Cambodia, the Holocaust, to name but a few -- were perpetrated by armed troops against unarmed populations. Many could well have been avoided or mitigated, had the perpetrators known their intended victims were equipped with a rifle and twenty bullets apiece, as the Militia Act required here. See Kleinfeld Dissent at 5997-99. If a few hundred Jewish fighters in the Warsaw Ghetto could hold off the Wehrmacht for almost a month with only a handful of weapons, six million Jews armed with rifles could not so easily have been herded into cattle cars.

My excellent colleagues have forgotten these bitter lessons of history. The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do. But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed -- where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.

Fortunately, the Framers were wise enough to entrench the right of the people to keep and bear arms within our constitutional structure. The purpose and importance of that right was still fresh in their minds, and they spelled it out clearly so it would not be forgotten. Despite the panel's mighty struggle to erase these words, they remain, and the people themselves can read what they say plainly enough:


get and view JPFO's Innocents Betrayed :

http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/ib.htm

Sit and watch for just 58 minutes. You’ll see the photos, the footage, the people, the faces. You’ll read the laws and hear the proclamations. You’ll witness just enough horror to understand how easy it is for armed killers to slaughter the disarmed, the powerless, the innocents.

Genocide examples from all over the world: Russia, China, Germany, Cambodia, Guatemala, Uganda, Rwanda and more. Examples showing how disarmed people in America have suffered persecution, mass murder, slavery, and terrorist attacks.

A fast-moving, modern production, Innocents Betrayed presents the entirely true accounts of how civilian disarmament made possible the killing of millions. The point is made sharply, clearly, unforgettably. It’s the factual counterpoint to the lies in Michael Moore’s "Bowling for Columbine."

Mochin Rechavim said...

Dovber-

While you predict the US Military State conspiracy that sends Jews to concentration camps, let me show you how Israel takes care of its Jews, especially the ones who chose to live a lifestyle where they are outwardly Jews ie: Beards, Payos, and Long Black Coats

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mFTOzaJVnII

This would NEVER EVER EVER! happen in America currently. While anything can change at a moments notice do not think for a minute that Hashem is getting nachas for the desecration of his holy soil.

The Rebbe, Nosi Doreinu promised us that we will be the generation to greet Moshiach and I await his arrival today.

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