Wednesday, November 05, 2008

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Sheitels: Holy or Evil?

by Reb Akiva at Mystical Paths

Recently some quotes from HaRav Ovadia Yosef have been published denouncing the wearing of sheitels (wigs for Jewish women as hair covering). "He called “today’s” sheitels “erva”, stating they are absolutely forbidden." (Dreaming)

Yet, the Lubavitcher Rebbe specifically instructed his chassidim ONLY to wear sheitels, such that the women should never walk out the door of their homes in a hair covering of a snood, kerchief, tichel, hat or turban. Further, they should not wear a half-sheitel (a fall or band that has a decorative bandanna over the front of the head), only a full sheitel, as a full sheitel ensures 100% of the hair is covered.

So which is it? Is the sheitel a form of nakeness that is absolutely forbidden, or is a tichel/snood/kerchief/hat/turban inappropriate and a sheitel the best form of hair covering?

Years ago I had a havrusa (a Torah learning partner) who was a Lubavitcher chossid of sephardi background. He used to run to hear the halacha shiurim of HaRav Yosef, and this same issue was raised back then. So I asked him, having the words of these two tzaddikim in direct conflict with each other, which is it?

He said, Rav Yosef is speaking and teaching to _his_ community. There is no tradition of sheitels in the sephardi community, and for them to begin to adopt practices of the ashkenazi community is inappropriate for their lifestyle and customs. For them, their sensibilities and community standards, a sheitel - per their rav - is inappropriate.

For Chabad as well as modern day orthodox women, the Rebbe determined and ruled that a sheitel is a preferred head covering, doing a better practical job than the alternatives while providing an appropriate modest yet respectful look for a holy Jewish woman.

Certainly their are sheitels today (and there were yesterday as well) that create a look that is inappropriate for a holy Jewish woman. Similarly, there are many other forms of head covering that allow significant slippage, hair to poke out in all directions, or make a woman look downright unpleasant - which is absolutely NOT the intention of halacha.

Some chassidim solve this problem by having their women shave their heads. That's a pretty extreme position that the klal (the general Jewish religious public) is not going to accept. Further, it takes significant cultural infusion to consider this not unpleasant within the marital relationship.

In the final analysis, these are often COMMUNAL rulings, focused upon matching halacha to ones community standards, local challenges, and cultural history. For example, neither the Mishnah, nor Gemora, nor Tur, Shulchan Aruch, or Mishneh Brurah define required STYLES of clothing for modesty or head coverings. Rather, we rely on the rabbis of the community and of the generation to define this appropriately for current modes of dress, climate, styles, etc.

HaRav Yosef is ruling for HIS community, not for the Klal. It is his place to do so. Similarly, the Rebbe set the standards for his community as well as selecting one that would work for the mitzvah of kisoy rosh (covering the head/hair) for Chabad to teach in Chabad houses worldwide.

Which is correct? Both are.

Update: Josh at ParshaBlog adds a halachic review of BOTH positions going back over 50 years.

Illustrative graphic from Sheitals.Com

36 comments:

Anonymous said...
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Akiva said...

Your comment was deleted and here's why:

"Women bring the holocaust, c'v, with immodesty to Am Israel."

Whether this is from you or a quote (probably out of context) from a gadol Torah, who has the nerve to declare THEY know the reason for the Holocaust??? The Lubavitcher Rebbe has written it is beyond human understanding and no blame can be assigned to a horror of that magnitude.

Would YOU care to stand before the Lubavitcher Rebbe and tell him his decision on sheitels "brings a holocaust"???

The frum generation before the Holocaust was immeasurably MORE modest than today. The pritzus of modern fashion and modern media shoving so much feces in our faces affecting our society ONLY negatively didn't exist.

If we are to be judged on modesty versus that generation, we would be found very wanting. Yet, the Holocaust came.

Be careful with condemning the klal, even if you are using words from gedolim!!!

Anonymous said...

Akiva

In Gibraltar (a frum Serfardi Community) my husband started the Uman journey a few years back. He was hounded with all sorts of comments against it and one that cropped up this year was that Rav Ovadia Yosef says it is assur to leave your wife at home with the children tut tut tut. My husband was really tired of the comments trying to make them understand that his wife actually encouraged him to go, so I told him to point out that the Rav had also ruled that women should not wear sheitles and to say that when their wives covered their hair with a tichel he would stop going to Uman!!Needless to say they soon kept quiet!!

BTW the Arizal tells us it is not good for women to shave their head of all hair for kabbalistic reasons.

Regards from Gib Shoshana

Anonymous said...

It is not just a Sephardi thing.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_prBfNuonF7U/SRCO7Xxq3fI/AAAAAAAADf8/ZFYO6vLcqr4/s1600-h/untitled.JPG

Akiva said...

No, it's not just a sephardi thing. But those rabbaim are poskening for their kehilos in Meah Shearim and the surrounding neighborhoods.

They are not paskening for the klal. HaRav Yosef is known for his inflammatory statements - which are effective in getting attention throughout the community he's trying to reach but are an often misunderstood tone outside of it.

Fire and brimstone is not our way, especially after the Holocaust.

Moshe said...

Akiva:

First of all, what makes you claim that those assuring shaitels are only speaking for their communities, did you care to ask them? From the strong language they all use (not only R' Ovadia) it does seem like they consider it totally assur - they don't talk like that about things like kitnios for example. I understand if you'd say "they're not our poskim, we don't have to follow them", but what makes you so sure of their intention?

About lack of modesty bringing the holocoust: It's a huge klal in kaballa that sexual sins bring horrible dinim, more so than any other. R' Nachman spesifically states that zl'v is THE WORST sin... So no, it's not the immodest women who cause tzarros, it's the men who look at them and are nichshal... But would a woman not want to be extra careful not to put herself in such position? I mean, we're talking about THE WORST sin!!!!

Yes, many things (not only immodesty) were responsible for the holocoust, and we SHOULD try to figure out why it happened! That's the most basic jewish concept, to try to understand why Heaven does things, especially when it's punishments! Otherwise how would we ever learn?

About the Rebbes words on sheitels: To tell you the truth, I have great difficulty with it. Let me suggest that he said it specifically to the women of Chabad who're heavily involved in outreach. Especially then when he said it, outreach was mamash pikuach nefesh for klal yisroel.

Let me give you an example: You'd never say that hugging women is Ok, right? Yet, this is just what Reb Shlomo used to do... And if you'd asked him he'd probably tell you that there's no other way he can be accepted among the hippies back then, and doing outreach with them is pikuach nefesh... But would you ever say that it's Ok to do that now, and for anyone???

Look, for those farbrente chabad women who wear sheitels davka because the Rebbe said it, I have nothing to say, at least they do it lshem shamaim. But when every charedi newlywed feels peer pressure to buy a sheitel, because, oh, what will people think of her if she doesn't wear one, then, yes, sheitels become EVIL!!!

I like what R' Shwartz said about it in the Baltimore talk that I once sent to you: http://www.jewstart.com/tour/bilvavi2008_baltimore_shomrei.mp3
Just to quote you one thing: "Do you think Sara Imainu dressed like that?" And he was talking to an ashkenazi congregation, for whom it's probably an alter minhag to wear sheitels...

So, no, I'm not for hanging posters saying that anyone who wears a sheitel is going to gehinnom (wether that's true or not), because no one will pay attention to such talk. But I think points that I mentioned should be considered.

joshwaxman said...

very nice post.
I am not so sure these rabbanim were stating it only for their own communities. But at the least, there is a dispute on this count, and I believe on the very same wigs, and we have the right (and perhaps duty) to heed our own rabbonim, as Rav Moshe Feinstein points out in a teshuva.

I also composed a post on this matter, which I published this morning. Check it out here:

http://parsha.blogspot.com/2008/11/my-reaction-to-rav-elyashivs-latest.html

Kol Tuv,
Josh

Anonymous said...

The Rebbe did not make statements only to save the souls of his own Chassidim. That is one of the differences of the Rebbe from other Rebbe (all due respect). The Rebbe's opinions were not limited to Lubavitch unless he was talking specifically about a Lubavitch issue. The Rebbe wanted the best for every Jew and was not mainly focused on his own Chassidim. If you read the various letters of the Rebbe on this subject, his intention is very clear. Many want to interpret it this way and that...but thats incorrect. The Rebbe repeats over and over that a sheitel is the best way to do the mitzvah of kissui harosh (constantly and totally covering the hair) and explains exactly why he prefers it over any other method. He was not just addressing baal teshuvas or whomever you may think. This is what the Rebbe said was best for all jewish women. But he didn't tell people to go against their Rav of course. In the end, follow your Rav, but don't think that Rav Ovadiah Yosef shlita or the Rebbe zt'l were only stating what they think was good for their own groups and not the klal. Their language does not show such an idea. For example, the Rebbe thought all jewish men above bar mitzvah age should put on Rabbeinu Tam tefillin, not just Lubavitchers. There are many other examples as well. G-d bless!

Anonymous said...

By the way, I did not mean that other Chassidic Rebbes don't want to help the souls of all jews (G-d forbid). I just meant that you see the way of other chassidic groups has not been to be as "outgoing" as Chabad, being focused on taking action for everyone, even outside of their group. But that's by no means an insult to them, just a notable difference.

moshe said...

Doesn't the Rebbe write that he preffers sheitels over a scarf because a woman may feel peer pressured to take off her scarf, but that would never be true with a sheitel. Well, that reason may have applied in the 50's USA, but doesn't apply now... And as to the reason that a sheitel covers all the hair, there're plenty of ways to make sure all the hair are covered with a scarf or a snud.

As I said, for fabrente chabad women who listen to the Rebbe on EVERYTHING, I have nothing to say... But nothing bad will happen if non chabad women choose not to wear sheitels! Especially now that it's become PEER PRESSURE to wear a sheitel for ashkenazi chareidim, I will say again that it's OUT RIGHT EVIL...

Another issue is that these shaitels do cost a pretty penny. And they have to be changed every now and then. Don't you think it will only be a tikun if families decide to give that money to tzeddaka instead of spending it on a WIG?

Think about it.

Anonymous said...

moshe said: "Another issue is that these shaitels do cost a pretty penny. And they have to be changed every now and then. Don't you think it will only be a tikun if families decide to give that money to tzeddaka instead of spending it on a WIG?"

If you want to question shaitels on religious grounds that's one thing, but your reasoning here makes no sense. It's like telling people don't buy cars,go on vacation or buy new furniture and give it all to tzedaka. Most people are not giving any less tzedaka because they buy a shaitel.

joshwaxman said...

moshe:
even if we want to cast this as a bedieved which the Rebbe imposed as the lechatchila because of the status of the generation (I would disagree), there is still a machloket between Rav Moshe and the Rebbe on one side, and Rav Yosef and Rav Eliashiv on the other, in terms of whether a sheitel has the status of erva deOrayta. The Rebbe would not have imposed this requirement if even on a Biblical level it had the status of uncovered hair. Indeed, his argument is that this way the hair is covered. So those who cover their hair with a sheitel have what to stand on. (Read my post for more details.)

"nothing bad will happen if non chabad women choose not to wear sheitels"
I would disagree. There is a more general problem of one group imposing its interpretation of halacha on the Jewish world as a whole, and insisting that only *its* interpretation is correct, and that anyone or any group who acts differently (though in a halachically justifiable manner) is an oisvorf and will burn in heck. This is one of a thousand different battles that I believe will play out over the next few years.

This trend in general will lead to a stifling, intolerant, conformist Judaism, often lacking in beauty and color.

Kol Tuv,
Josh

Anonymous said...

One of the things that scares me is how such words of blame against women can lead to hateful actions against women-such at beating, throwing bleach, etc. Isn't that onas devarim?!!? (Correct me if I am wrong I am seriously asking).
And where does the woman blaming stop? If z'lv is the WORST sin how far do women have to go . Our very existence is provocative. Should we go back to being confined in our tents permitted the light of day only to go shopping and only when accompanied by a male? Shall women be covered from head to toe even while inside -like Tamar who was not recognized by her father in law. See - there is no going back we can only move forward in time with courage, empathy, compassion, and TRUE humility and modesty. That is how we get to the Torah of Moshiach in my opinion, NOT by blaming women.

moshe said...

Anon: I did not blame women, I specifically said that men are to blame! As to how far women HAVE TO go - only as far as required by halacha, each according to her rav and community. No one should be forsing anything beyond that. However, I think people (men and women) should be ENCOURAGED to go to greater standards of tznius, even more than required by halacha. You see, tznius (yes, specifically sexual purity)is the yesod that everything stands on, that's a major kabalistic concept... And where leniency in other areas of halacha can be accepted, and even encouraged, leniency in tznius/yesod can lead to very great damage, and should definitely not be encouraged!!!

I was speaking against a trend where sheitels have become a norm such that many women feel pressured to buy one. I feel, that given the above considerations, such a trend is outright evil.

Josh: I hope this addresses your points as well.

Leor said...

If the Rebbe zt'l would see what today's sheitels look like he would declare them avodah zara!

What a shame for Am Yisrael.

Anonymous said...

Moshe,
that is one reason that the Rebbe gave. He also said because scarfs and snuds (if you know someone who wears them a lot they may tell you) tend to slip and slide and must be re-adjusted fairly frequently because naturally cloth slides on your head when you're moving a lot. It also can become frustrating to the point where a woman may just throw it off period for extended periods. A comfortable sheitel eliminates all these issues. These were the Rebbe's points. And I NEVER said non-Lubavitch women were have bad things happen if they didn't wear a sheitel. I simply said the Rebbe thought that this was the best thing for jewish women in general...doesn't mean bad things will happen if they follow something else. They just won't be following Kissui Harosh in the manner that the Rebbe said brings the greatest illumination from the mitzvah. Actually, on the other side, those who argue for scarves are the ones who say bad things will happen (G-d forbid) to those who wear sheitels. Another thing...how is it outright evil just because some people may feel pressure to wear one? Unless someone is verbally harassing that person, then that is an internal problem if they feel pressure. I went to a yeshiva where most guys had beards. If I had felt pressure to grow a beard (which I didn't) would that make their beard-wearing something evil?? Of course not. A woman, her husband, and their Rav are the ones to decide what they want to do. The Rebbe simply said that his solid view was in favor of sheitels. Of course one must exercise care just like anything else in life and not overdue with a big glamorous model-like wig. But the same can be said for fancy scarves tied in different ways that can also be quite attractive on a woman, being just as intriguing as some glamorous sheitels. I've seen this as well. MANY woman wear regular and decent sheitels of today without the fanfair look. Here is some of the Rebbe's view. Search the places where he specifically talks about kerchiefs.

http://www.sichosinenglish.org/books/kissui-harosh/02.htm

Anonymous said...

I think there is another difference, that ROY lives in Israel and the LR was in the U> In Israel, even hilonim recognize that a woman wearing a kerchief or hat is likely wearing one to indicate that she is married. However in western society, a woman wearing a hat or scarf is not indicating that she is married. In the west a sheitl may even preserve some of the intent of hair covering. Even though most people will not recognize a sheitl as a wig, women usually do not want to remove their sheitls. A woman wold have to explain why she is wearing a sheitl, an ugly one or a pretty one, over her hair, and that is a barrier to arayot. Remember that in the time of the gemara it seems that even nonjewish women covered their hair and were divorced when they uncovered their hair. In Israel, it is still true that everyone recognizes hair covering as indicating marital status, so in Israel there may be good reason not to wear a sheitl that can pass for hair and prefer a scarf or hat. But in the US, most people do not recognize why a woman would cover her hair, and so the most one can do is wear the sort of hair covering that one wouldn't want to remove (i.e. a sheitl) that is my understanding.

Anonymous said...

sefardi poskim in the US, who go by R Ovadia for everything else, allow their kehillot to wear shaitels.
i think everyone needs to relax about this one. while modern shaitels are not as modest as they used to be, a woman wearing one KNOWS she is covering her hair and is doing so solely for the sake of the mitzva. she is a human being, and if she is not ready to wear a tichel, well then, can we all please give her a break?! it's time we all stop trying to judge eachother based on our external appearances. i have seen many women who dress very tzanua, and many men who dress as charedi as they come, who do not in any way represent what the torah expects from us.

joshwaxman said...

"However, I think people (men and women) should be ENCOURAGED to go to greater standards of tznius, even more than required by halacha. You see, tznius (yes, specifically sexual purity)is the yesod that everything stands on, that's a major kabalistic concept"

I understand the inclination. I disagree with it, but I understand it. Kabbalistically grounding the concept won't persuade me otherwise, for reasons I will not get into here. (Though perhaps see the Shemesh Tzedaka on whether kabbalists should impose their kabbalistically-based chumrot on the general community, where he says they should not.) I believe there is a too much of an *overemphasis* of tznius in the frum world, and in girls' education. Judaism is so much more, for both men and women. And piling on stringency in tznius can lead to *fetishization*, just as in terms of the tefach which is normally covered. And I do not believe this will not just stop at sheitels. E.g. see the recent bans on simchat beit hashoeva, or concerts, for tznius concerns.

As an interesting aside, those who would forbid sheitels are also against particular tichels: "Furthermore, the Institute’s instructions for those who have gone back to wearing an acceptable head covering are to cover the head with a “modest kerchief, and not, Heaven forbid, all kinds of newfangled modern kerchiefs and head coverings that are liable to attract attention because of the evil inclination and to cause the public to sin with accessories that attract the eye.”

Kol Tuv,
Josh

Writing from Israel, Unlimited. said...

It just boggles the mind how and why one would choose to make this an issue and cause division YET AGAIN amongst us. Why? For heaven's sake. Why? If we cannot decide what constitutes TZNIUT - how on EARTH could we agree on what constitutes MOSHIACH????????????

Writing from Israel, Unlimited. said...

And another thing. This simply REEKS of onemanupship. *I am better than you and know better* - the ol' geava instead of geula. Whatever dudes. You keep on doing your thing in preventing Moshiach - right on. The House of David will keep on doing their thing in keeping the heart and mind in place in the most open and connected way - without distractions.

:::shakes head:::::

moshe said...

Josh: I think I indicated several times that no views should be IMPOSED on any one, did I not make that clear? I only think that everyone (men and women) should be educated and encouraged (not forsed in any way!) to uphold higher standards of tznius.

WFIU: Causing division? What's the problem, is this the first time you see jews having a discussion? Everyone's entitled to present their views in a respectful way, and I think that's how we've done it so far. This does seem to be a hot topic, so should we never talk about it? Chill out a bit.

Writing from Israel, Unlimited. said...

Chill out?

There's a war going on, in case you haven't noticed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeYjolyfRy4

joshwaxman said...

moshe:
indeed, but the *culture* of tznius excess leads to such general trends. I also don't consider many of these things "higher standards of tznius." rather, just *different* standards of tznius, in some cases more stringent. and girls get plenty of hours (an understatement) of education and encouragement about tznius, such that it is overemphasized more than its appropriate level, and at the expense of emphasizing other things.

Kol Tuv,
Josh

Anonymous said...

This comment was from Maran HaRav Yosef Sholom Elyashiv, according to your link as well as yeshiva world. Chacham Ovadiah Yosef has said it many times prior.

Interesting that the Aruch HaShulchan states that womens hair is no longer consider erva.

Divorced Jewess said...

"...it is still true that everyone recognizes hair covering as indicating marital status,...."

False. The halacha is that any woman who has had carnal relations must cover her hair. Divorced women are obliged to continue covering their hair despite their single status.

Writing from Israel, Unlimited. said...

Men - keep your eyes to Shamayim or to the ground - women cover yourselves up - and let's leave the machlochet (root chelek - as in division) to our enemies. Please do not feed the Erev Rav's agenda.

Deborah Shaya said...
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joshwaxman said...

"Where is the codified Halacha that a married woman must cover all her hair, all the time, whenever she steps out of her house, whether it is summer or winter?

There is NO CODIFIED HALACHA that a married woman must cover her hair totally and constantly whenever she steps out of her house.

The halachah has been totally MISINTERPRETED, and in fact, relates ONLY to a married woman covering her hair when she lights the candles to welcome in Shabbat and Yom Tov – lechavod Shabbat ve Yom Tov, and when she goes to the Synagogue."


This is, unfortunately, not correct. Are you really suggesting that Rav Ovadia Yosef and Rav Elyashiv, who are geniuses in Torah and terms of sharpness and breadth of material are misunderstanding this? And did you go through the sources yourself, or did you hear this somewhere. (This is not the first time I have heard this false claim.) It is mentioned in Talmud Bavli - in Ketubot daf 72, where the topic is going out to the marketplace with uncovered head. And it is brought down lehalacha in Shulchan Aruch, Even haEzer, siman 116.

Now that you know that it is indeed codified halacha, will you retract?

If you are going to argue on halacha established in the gemara on the basis of your own deductions, then it is close to Karaism, rejecting our Oral Law. And that is a worse concern than covering hair, not covering hair, tumah, etc.

The rest of this argument, in terms of tumah because of eating bacon, and chillul Hashem, is "unconvincing" to me -- and I say (non-humbly) that I have learned halacha and gemara for many years, enough to detect when an argument is silly. Halacha has various rules in a well-developed system, just like constitutional law, and you can't just pull things out of you hat (or wig, as the case may be).

If I recall correctly, there *is* a discussion in terms of wigs from the dead, in a teshuva from Maharatz Chayos, whether it is forbidden in benefit if it came from a dead body. But in the end he comes to a conclusion of permissibility.

I could debunk what you write point by point, but I won't.

But I would encourage you to seek out a rabbi who will carefully and slowly learn through the development of this halacha with you.

All the best,
Josh

Deborah Shaya said...

I am writing to inform you that there is No codified Halacha that a married woman must cover her hair totally and constantly whenever she steps out of her house.

The Halachah has been MISinterpreted.The true interpretation of the Halachah is as follows:

A married woman is required to cover her hair when she lights the candles to welcome in Shabbat and Yom Tov – lechavod Shabbat ve Yom Tov - and when she goes to the Synagogue, because that is the place of Kedusha.

The Halacha does not require anything more from married women.

This misinterpretation of the Torah is completely Assur, and a TWISTING of the Torah.The Torah must remain straight.

In ancient times, a woman would only cover her hair upon entering the Beit Hamikdash.Similarly for the Sotah-otherwise she would not be required to cover her hair ordinarily, day to day.

It is very important for people to know and realise that when a married woman covers her hair with 'Real Hair' the woman is covering herself with 100% Tumah. This is totally against the Torah.

Nothing could be more nonsensical than for a Jewish woman to cover her hair with someone else's hair -who was not Jewish as well!
She can never fully be sure that this 'hair' has not come from meitim - despite any guarantee by the seller.
This 'real hair' is doubly and in some circumstances, triply Tumah.
1.It will contain the leftover dead hair cells from another person - however much it has been treated, the tumah is still there.
2.This other person (likely to be a non-Jew who most likely was involved in some kind of Avodah Zarah) may have eaten bacon, ham, lobster etc, all of which are totally forbidden as unclean and non-kosher foods in Halacha.
3.If the woman happens to be the wife of a COHEN, then she is bringing her husband into close contact and proximity with meitim and Tumah Every day, and throughout their married life. This is clearly strictly against the Torah.
There is nothing more degrading and demeaning to a woman than to make her cover her hair FOR LIFE upon marriage.Frankly it is an abhorrent practice.

Any man who makes such a ridiculous demand on his wife, or wife-to-be, should similarly also be required by his wife to wear: long white socks, even in the summer; a fur streimel; grow a long beard; wear a black hat and coat constantly, and cover his face when he speaks to his wife.

Wigs were merely a fashion item in the time of Louis XIV - they are not for the Jewish woman!

Rabbi Menachem Schneeersohn tz”l, was unfortunately wrong in this instance.He gave the directive that a married woman must cover her head with a “sheitel.”This needs to be corrected.
Rabbi Schneersohn a"h, was a Tzaddik, – but on this – he was, unfortunately not correct. And this does need to be corrected.

It is extremely unhealthy and unhygienic for a woman to cover her hair constantly.The hair needs oxygen to breathe.
A woman's hair will lose its natural beauty and shine, she may have scalp problems, some of her hair may fall out, she may get headaches, and she may end up cutting it short like a man, when she always wore it long, in order not to have too much discomfort from her hair covering.

Do you think that HaKadosh Baruch Hu commanded this of women? I can assure you that He did not.

The commmandments are not meant to cause so much repression and oppression in women.

Was Chava created with a wig? Of course not! Did she start wearing a wig? Of course not!

Not a single “dayan” or “rabbi” has the slightest bit of interest in correcting the situation for the women. Therefore, the women will have to correct the situation for themselves.
Most of the "dayanim" and "rabbis" of today are not the “holy wise men and sages” they would like you to believe they are. Most of them could not be further from the Torah. Some of the "well-known mekubalim" are actually frauds and are after only one thing: MONEY. That is the only GOD they adhere to.

Please Wake Up.

And use the spark of intelligence that Hakadosh Baruch Hu gave to you and blessed you with.

Akiva said...

Deborah Shaya, you make interesting claims. However, just as you say we should not rely on the words of others, why should we rely on yours in this case?

Quote your sources, pasukim, etc, to back up your positions.

Deborah Shaya said...

To Akiva,

You are effectively asking me what the source is for you to have common sense.

I will tell you:

We have all been created, "Betselem Elokim" - "in the image of Elokim."

This means that we have been given something called "intelligence."

The source is the very first Parsha, Bereishit - 1:27.

It is time that people use the spark of intelligence and Kedusha with which Hashem has blessed them.

With kind regards.

Akiva said...

Deborah Shaya, you start with a statement "The Halachah has been MISinterpreted.The true interpretation of the Halachah is as follows". Yet, when challenged for the basis of your interpretation, you respond "the source is for you to have common sense."

Halacha has rules and process of interpretation, as well as a mesora. It is a holy logic pattern, but not whatever someone decides at the moment according to their circumstances and cultural situation is "common sense".

If you are going to use your "intelligence" to come to a "common sense" understanding, do not challenge the gedolim by saying they've misinterpreted halacha - for you are not presenting a halachic interpretation!

You said, "Do you think that HaKadosh Baruch Hu commanded this of women? I can assure you that He did not." If you want to challenge on the basis of _halacha_, do not assure me - prove it. Bring your sources, apply the halachic process, and show me.

I am not challenging your position or argument. I am only challenging your statement that it's a halachic argument.

Deborah Shaya said...

To Akiva,

I have correctly stated that the Halachah has been MISinterpreted - i.e. it has not been interpreted correctly.

When the Halachah refers to "Covering hair," it does not mean "Cover your hair with hair!" and "constantly for life." The Halachah is that:

A married woman is required to cover her hair when she lights the candles to welcome in Shabbat and Yom Tov – lechavod Shabbat ve Yom Tov - and when she goes to the Synagogue, because that is the place of Kedusha.

The Halacha does not require anything more from married women.

I would politely remind you that many righteous women influenced their husbands for the good at the Chet Haeigel and at the time of Korach.

It was these righteous women who succeeded in bringing their husbands back to their senses.

And because of these great women, the lives of their husbands were saved. Those men therefore turned away from the madness of avodah zarah, and the rebellion of Korach against Hashem's choice of Aharon as Cohen Gadol.

So please don't tell me it is holy for me to wear a WIG! Hair over my hair. This is ridiculous!

With kind regards.

Deborah Shaya said...

1. To all the women who are wondering about the sources:

We have all been created, "Betselem Elokim" - "in the image of Elokim."

This means that we have been given something called "intelligence." The source is the very first Parsha, Bereishit - 1:27.

It is time that people use the spark of intelligence and Kedusha with which Hashem has blessed them.

If your rabbi will tell you to go and jump into the depths of a glacier, would you do that too – and give me a source for it?

“According to the Zohar”, I should also be covering my hair with a wig when I have a bath. “According to the Zohar and the Gemara” and all the sources that have misinterpreted the Halachah, and MIStranslated the Zohar, I should also have been born with a WIG on my head.

Those who tell me about their sources which are incorrect, should also tell me about these “translations” and these “sources.”

2.Remember that the Jewish women are very, very holy. They are much more holy than the men. Look at the exemplary behaviour of the women at Har Sinai.

The women never sinned at the Eigel, and so are greatly elevated. Many of the men, unfortunately, ran after a calf made out of a lump of gold – after they had just been given the Torah, and seen the greatest of all Revelations. The women refused to give their gold for the avodah zarah of the men.

The women were greatly elevated after such a wonderful display of Emunah, and they are regarded very highly in Shamayim.

That is why women are not even required to pray. They can pray at home on their own. Nor do women have to make up a minyan. That is how holy the Jewish women are. Men have to pray 3 times a day to remind them of their Creator.

The men are telling the women to put the hair of a non-Jewish woman who may have eaten things like snakes and sharks and alligators, and has worshipped in churches, Buddist temples or Hindu temples : on their own Heads. They had better wake up.

If the men don’t want to wake up to the truth, and the true interpretation of the Halacha, the women will wake them up – whether they like it or not.

3. Look at the Jewish women in history, and remember how holy they are.

(a) Yaakov, who was the greatest of the Avot, came to marry the 2 daughters of Lavan, Rachel and Leah. Lavan was not exactly a tzaddik. Yaakov went to Lavan, of all people, to marry his 2 daughters – not 1 daughter, but his 2 daughters. Nothing could be greater than that.

(b) Rut, who came from Moav, became the ancestor of David Hamelech.

(c ) Batya, the daughter of Paroh, was given eternal life because she rescued Moshe from the river. No one could have been more evil than Paroh.

(d) Devorah, was a Neviah, and also a Judge.

Women, who came from such adverse backgrounds, with wicked fathers – were able to become builders of Am Yisrael. That is how holy the women are, and how much more elevated they are than the men.

This was never the case with men. It never happened the other way round.

Don't tell me it is holy for me to wear a WIG! Hair over my hair. This is ridiculous!

Similarly, don’t tell me it is holy for me to plonk a permanent head covering on my head for the rest of my life. This is equally vile.

Please Wake Up.

Use the spark of intelligence that Hakadosh Baruch Hu gave to you and blessed you with.

And give your wig back to your husband if you wear one.

4. Remember: Not a single “dayan” or “rabbi” has the slightest bit of interest in correcting the situation for the women. Therefore, the women will have to correct the situation................for ..................themselves.

Whether you wish to accept the correction–which is true–is up to you. Are you going to live by the truth? Are you going to use the spark of intelligence that Hashem gave to you and all women? Or are you going to follow rabbis and dayanim who tell you to wear a wig in a Heat Wave–and you thank them for it as well?

Anonymous said...

I agree that in judaism women have a special, elevated role and are full of Holy responsibility but just because you are a women, it doesn't mean you have the right to preach baseless perversions of jewish law and its interpretation in the name of your self proclaimed 'intelligence' and holiness.

Humility and is the first step towards yirat shamayim (awe of God) and yirat shamayim is the first step towards wisdom.

Hashem yirachem on your poor soul...

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