Sunday, May 11, 2008

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Arguing with The Arab - Part 1

by Akiva at Mystical Paths

In response to my Emunah Paths YouTube Video Channel, a Muslim wished to share some thoughts with me...

SLAUGHTERING PALESTINIANS AT A RATIO OF (8 to 1) YEAR AFTER YEAR AND THEN SAYING YOU ARE THE VICTIMS OF TERRORISM AND ANTI_SEMITISM IS SIMPLY A SIKE JOKE BY ANY STANDARD, LOGIC, RELIGION OR CREED. NO EXCUSES ARE ACEPTABLE FOR THESE LEVELS OF US & UK SPONSORED STATE TERRORISM!. NOT EVEN THE JEWISH HOLY TORAH ALLOWS KILLING BEYOND AN EYE FOR AN EYE!!!!!

Source of [8 to 1] statistic: B'TSelem ISRAELI Human Rights Group!

I replied:

So, by your logic Israel should randomly fire 7,800 anti-personnel rockets into Gaza population centers, because that's what they fired at us?

Oh wait, Israel's aim is better, so we might actually hit and kill someone, whereas they miss 92% of the time, so it's ok for them to keep attacking because their aim stinks but not for Israel because theirs doesn't?

If you fire upon an enemy from within a school, neither the laws of war nor the laws of the Torah protect the children. The person who FIRED is responsible for drawing the response.

Percentage of random Israeli attacks upon civilians: 0%
Percentage of random Palestinian attacks upon civilians: 95%

Israel doesn't attack Palestinian civilians, it attacks non-uniformed enemy combatants, who hide within the civilian population. THEY are making their families human shields, THEY are responsible for the result.

Want the Palestinians to stop dying? Tell them to stop attacking.


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3 comments:

Anonymous said...

i (the muslim) then replied:
i have never claimed the arabs to not commit terrorist acts. all sides do. The sad fact is that you jews are just as bad as those you call terrorists since you also ignore the ethical limits of violence and clearly dont fear god enough to give a shit when you have ignored the option of taking the higher moral ground and only taking an eye for an eye. Instead you openly dissobey your own religion by announcing you will kill 10 arabs for every israeli.(quoting your prime minister" . Assuming you have the right to kill those who attack you...what about the other 7 in the 8:1 ratio?. Does judaism prescribe the death penalty for vocal support of those who target buses???....it is indeed a crime against god to support the targeting of anyone but the perpatrator of a crime. It may even be moraly wrong to voice support for a bus bomber but is this a death penalty in Judaism?. I think you know the answer but of course i can predictably know that you are not god fearing enough to abide by even your own gods rulings. You will of course be forced to ignore all my home truths and change the subject with the usual zionist...."but they do such and such.....".....As a muslim i would happily support the israeli right to exist side by side if one day you zionists stop being such hypocrites and take the moral high ground and only react with measure. Unfortunatly i can safely predict you will lower yourself to the same level as those who target buses. In fact you might say even lower since you kill far more civilians. Oh and before you say its because you have a better army, you should remember that being better defended and more powerfull gives you LESS excuses for mass slaughter not more excuse since it is the same principle of a child fighting an adult and the adult claiming he was forced to kill the child. PS. And also before you say you dont target civilians please dont expect people to believe that for every 1 genuine bus bombing terrorist kill. 7 extra "accidents" happen (every incident despite high tech targeted weapons).....sound to you like you are only targeting those responsible?......or sound to you like most idf sodiers have no shame or limits in even respecting their own religion?. The truth is that the idf openly admit and try and justify the death sentence on arabs simply because they were in an area of combat almost daily in press briefings. PS. As for who ownes the land, im not sure i can be persuaded that the jews own it because of ansestors 2000 years ago. Since using these ethics england can ethicaly claim the USA, the vikings can claim england since in both cases the blood has always been in the population like with jews. the supidity of the zionist argument is purely based on the false god of nationalism and most intelligent moderate jews can see this and are willing for a two state solution.

Zionists....You are reaping what you sow, and deep down your conscience knows i speak the truth and thats what irritates you the most.

PS. I dare you to keep my reply on your site without sensorship of freedom of speech.

Akiva said...

I'm posting the rest of our conversation, full text - not edited, over the next 2 days. (We try not to get the articles too long here each day.)

You are free to comment and reply, and even request that I post it on the front page and I probably will.

You may speak here as strongly as you wish. If it gets terribly crude or insulting, which you have not been at all, that I would not post. I welcome you sharing your position for my audience to hear, however wrong it may be :-)

g said...

Akiva,
Coming from the same place the likes of this Arab person are from, I have an advice for you: you can talk and talk for the next hundred years and use all the logic in the world but still hear the same answers from him.you will hear the same answers wether you talk to a 5 year old child or a university professor of this culture. Don't expect to be able to ever enlighten them or get them to accept the truth.Its impossible. But through such discussion you will see why the world is going toward great disasters. Satan has won the minds of millions. All we can do is to pray for divine guidance for all humanity and that all minds may be saved from Satan.Maybe people from other nations could also join us in this prayer instead of their prayers for luck in destroying Israel.

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